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 Post subject: Gore, U.N. Body Win Nobel Peace Prize
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:41 pm 
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I don't get it. What does junk earth science which is questionable at best, have to do with peace? Personally, I'm not convinced that Gore cares about the dirt directly under his feet, much less the whole earths climate. It is clear to me that this prize has lost it's true value, and consequently, its esteem. :roll:


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Environmental issues are directly related to peace because violence and wars spring from the fear of running out of scarce resources.

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Wars indeed do often result from fear. But wars can also result from greed and power hunger (reference: Naziism, Iraqi Invasion, etc.). Unfortunately VP Gore's role in this is more like a Paul Revere than a Ghandi. Sounding the trumpet is a great thing. but we need tangible solutions which are easily packaged and sold. This being said I believe I signed an online petition several months toward promoting Al Gore for this award. His role with environmental issues is phenomenal.


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I don't know of any wars started over a struggle for the last piece of meat.
In fact, most aggression is just plain pride hate and greed. Furthermore, what does Gore plan on doing about the Sahara Desert....turn it into an oasis? Maybe God didn't do such a good job, and old Al baby's gonna make it right?! Give me a break.


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Injeun wrote:
I don't know of any wars started over a struggle for the last piece of meat.
In fact, most aggression is just plain pride hate and greed. Furthermore, what does Gore plan on doing about the Sahara Desert....turn it into an oasis? Maybe God didn't do such a good job, and old Al baby's gonna make it right?! Give me a break.


Actually, what is now the Sahara was at one time a massively lavish and lush region. Nature's cycles and changes range from the marginal to the dramatic. Nothing remains static for long. Unfortunately the filth we humans are spilling into the environment is known to be accelerating the changes in nature which will make survival for humans more and more difficult. There's nothing, "Godly," about that. But no matter what we humans do nature itself will be just fine. And when we are all gone it will cleanse itself and move on with some other species at the top o' the food chain.

As for wars and famine, it is in our nature to war upon each other for resources dear for our survival when we have none or are running low. Some will argue we are at war with illegal immigration. And everyone knows they are rampaging our borders not because they are eager to give us assistance but because their resources down south, regardless the causes and culprits, are seriously lacking. Just because the War in Iraq is based upon greed and muscle flexing, does not mean all wars are.


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Misty_Dawn wrote:
Injeun wrote:
I don't know of any wars started over a struggle for the last piece of meat.
In fact, most aggression is just plain pride hate and greed. Furthermore, what does Gore plan on doing about the Sahara Desert....turn it into an oasis? Maybe God didn't do such a good job, and old Al baby's gonna make it right?! Give me a break.


Actually, what is now the Sahara was at one time a massively lavish and lush region. Nature's cycles and changes range from the marginal to the dramatic. Nothing remains static for long. Unfortunately the filth we humans are spilling into the environment is known to be accelerating the changes in nature which will make survival for humans more and more difficult. There's nothing, "Godly," about that. But no matter what we humans do nature itself will be just fine. And when we are all gone it will cleanse itself and move on with some other species at the top o' the food chain.

As for wars and famine, it is in our nature to war upon each other for resources dear for our survival when we have none or are running low. Some will argue we are at war with illegal immigration. And everyone knows they are rampaging our borders not because they are eager to give us assistance but because their resources down south, regardless the causes and culprits, are seriously lacking. Just because the War in Iraq is based upon greed and muscle flexing, does not mean all wars are.


Al Gore is a hired spokesman for radical environmental groups. They have collected the results and studies of scientists (handpicked by the radicals themselves) worldwide, developed theories, exaggerated results, jumped to conclusions and created a hollywood movie about a what-if worse-case scenario involving the warming of the earths climate and mans place in it.

This has nothing to do with promoting peace among warring nations, reducing standing armies or in any way addressing the multitude of conflicts currently upon the worlds stage, none of which are due to global warming or anything catastrophic. Nor could the environment be farther from the cause of such things as religious disputes, power quests and hatred.

As for the science, it's my understanding that man is accountable for a fraction of one percent of this gradual warming. If this is addressed, it is akin to addressing the sprained pinky of a carwreck victim with massive internal injuries, internal bleeding, broken femurs, compound fractures, severe head trauma and a sucking chest wound. And this gets the Doctor of the year award?! :shock:


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Injeun wrote:
I don't know of any wars started over a struggle for the last piece of meat.
In fact, most aggression is just plain pride hate and greed. Furthermore, what does Gore plan on doing about the Sahara Desert....turn it into an oasis? Maybe God didn't do such a good job, and old Al baby's gonna make it right?! Give me a break.

You proved the point with your second line. All wars are started out of either greed (the last piece of meat or at least a larger piece of it) and hatred/stupidity. Our involvement in Iraq is a classic example of the hatred/stupidiy part of the equation (I've lumped hatred and stupidity together because most hatred is the result of stupidity in one way or another).

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Injeun wrote:
Al Gore is a hired spokesman for radical environmental groups. They have collected the results and studies of scientists (handpicked by the radicals themselves) worldwide, developed theories, exaggerated results, jumped to conclusions and created a hollywood movie about a what-if worse-case scenario involving the warming of the earths climate and mans place in it.

This has nothing to do with promoting peace among warring nations, reducing standing armies or in any way addressing the multitude of conflicts currently upon the worlds stage, none of which are due to global warming or anything catastrophic. Nor could the environment be farther from the cause of such things as religious disputes, power quests and hatred.

As for the science, it's my understanding that man is accountable for a fraction of one percent of this gradual warming. If this is addressed, it is akin to addressing the sprained pinky of a carwreck victim with massive internal injuries, internal bleeding, broken femurs, compound fractures, severe head trauma and a sucking chest wound. And this gets the Doctor of the year award?! :shock:


You are calling Al Gore an extreme radical for attempting to fulfill a widely accepted need for environmental awareness. I'm not sure where you get your scientific ratio from (God I hope it's not from that imbecile Ann Coulter!), but you are completely discounting humanity's known effects on the environemnt.

I voted for Gore, but I am hardly a fan. Maybe this, and his recent Oscar, are a payback for the Presidency many feel was unethically wrenched away from him in the 2000 election. You would take this away from him too? And award it to whom? Duh-bya? Hah!


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This site is offering $125,000.00 to anyone, including Gore, who can scientifically prove Gores claim:

http://www.junkscience.com/


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I don't have a problem with Algore winning the Nobel Peace Prize. After all, it puts him right up there with previous winners such as Yasser Arafat, known terrorist, then there is Kofi Annan who is neck deep with Chriac in the Oil for Food scandal along with their good buddy Sadam Husein. Let's see...who else...Oh, who could forget arguably the worst president in United States history, Jimmy Carter. And that's supposed to be an honor?

Curious if all the Liberals now are taking that giant step backward from "Global Warming", now that Algore's flick has been proven a fraud, to "Environmental Awareness". Those two are light years apart...no pun intended.

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Curious if all the Liberals now are taking that giant step backward from "Global Warming", now that Algore's flick has been proven a fraud, to "Environmental Awareness". Those two are light years apart...no pun intended.


Good point. The counter culture movement did similarly upon hijacking and misguiding the civil rights movement.


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Gore winning the prize for junk science is merely another indication of the politicalization of most international bodies.

Can't enforce your beliefs by reason and democratic processes? Then go ahead and lie and distort. No problem.

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